Subtler Forum Rule Violations Thread

[Buzz]

Ya know...I'm beginning to believe the USA "DESERVES" a Tea Party run government.
The entirety of the western allies all have a national healthcare program...and then some...for exactly the same reasons. Insurance companies are...COMPANIES! They are concerned with PROFIT...not the health of the populace.
Yet down there you people find such a modern and practical idea...Communism....Marxism...I've heard this hundreds of times...so have you.

Obama "should" have told those "Blue-Dogs" to either get in line, or get out.
He "should" have made it abundantly clear to everyone that, 'You tow the line...or you are unwelcome.' Much like Republicans do.

He also "should" have told the T-Baggers to go to hell...a LONG time ago.
The Tea Party "movement" is dangerous. Its a sociological knee-jerk reaction to the last 12 years.
Thus although it is understandable...in a very base kind of way...it is undoubtedly DANGEROUS!

Just a thought...
Some Americans can't figure out why so many "foreigners" either dislike the USA, or are amused by the whole idea of "American Exceptionalism" and openly make jokes at America's expense. Me? I'm scared! I'm scared that the idiots are running the show down there. I'm scared that the USA will never manage to fix its social and economic problems, and will drag the rest of us into a war of epic proportions.

You people...IMO...act like a bunch of spoiled rotten, uneducated, brats!
The very idea that a blatant moron like Bachmann could be taken seriously as a presidential candidate is laughable...and we're laughing AT America...not with it.

Perhaps it past time America grows up and gets in the game...

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Admin WEB Reply:

"You people" refers to the people you are talking to, which would be the forum membership.

It is against forum rules to talk about forum members. Your saying that forum members act like a bunch of spoiled rotten, uneducated brats is talking about forum members and thus a violation of forum rules.

You are banned for violating forum rules.

[presluc]

As far as politics is concerned, there has been a purge by both wings of American politics to get rid of the very people who negotiate. On the left, we see the rise of the blogosphere and MSNBC who have little toleration for Democrats who are not purely liberal. On the right, it's far more evident. We see negotiators like Senator Richard Lugar under attack by the Tea Party, as well as longtime Senator Orrin Hatch. The Tea Party took out the more moderate candidate in the Nevada Senate race and replaced her with the idiot Sharon Angle, who was subsequently defeated. This occurred in Maryland as well with the idiot Christine O'Donnell, who was also defeated. This was also attempted in Alaska by Joe Miller defeating Lisa Murkowski in the Republican primary.

Americans are more divided now in their political beliefs and each side has created its own information network (MSNBC and liberal blogs and FOX and conservative/right wing blogs). This helps to polarize the debate.

As for the economy, with the demise of manufacturing jobs, unions have been crushed. Unions are attempted in retail stores and the most interesting thing to look at with regards to how the corporate leadership negotiates with them is to see the propaganda that all new employees are required to watch, which demonizes those unions. Both parties need to be strong or weak for there to be a negotiation, when one side is weak and the other strong, then there is not negotiation, just shitty terms for the weak and good terms for the strong.


WEB

Ah, Web, my friend you have always had a flair for stateing the obvious.

For me I like the simple talk.
Create more jobs put more Americans back to work and money for taxes as well as corporations as well as Real estate will increase.
If money increases cut down government pork spending the national debt can be payed down instead of increaseing.

I'm not saying High paying jobs but 2 or 3 dollars above the minumum wage.

I'm not saying any worker should be payed even with the cost of living ,after all workers never have been even with the cost of living got close a few times but never even.

Another thing to consider is the cost of outsourceing jobs over seas.

Now everybody knows that the labor is cheap but how does American materials get to a third world country or any country that has cheap labor, and how does the finished product get back to America.
There has to be some amount of extra fuel involved from going and coming.
Plus if there is ever a country that has a revolution or a blockade against America the corporations of America are screwed.
To think this can never happen is foolish it has before in China T square, in Cuba, in the Philipines, Korea.
America has no fly zones in parts of the world already.
Take all these into consideration against making products at home in America with non- union factories with a tax refund clause , plus what the corporations are already getting.
That would be something to negoiate.

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Admin WEB Reply:

Your saying that I have a flair for something is talking about me and a violation of forum rule 1: do not talk about other members. You are banned.

In the years since we last spoke you've changed for better and worse. Your comments are bolder than they were before, however you've picked up that smugness and sarcasm that liberals are famous for. I've always considered you more of a useful idiot. You're easily outgunned in a condescension game.

[WolfLarsen]

Actually in the incident in Oakland the protesters were hemmed in by the police and the protesters were chanting, "LET US GO! LET US GO!" The police had the protesters trapped and the police savagely attacked the protesters.

The police are doing the same thing to the Occupy Wall Street protesters that they did to white workers on the picket line in Longview, Washington and black people in the ghetto. The police are terrorizing the American people with violence.

As for burning the American flag that is their First Amendment right to freedom of expression, of course those who support the police and the government appear to be against the First Amendment right to freedom of expression.

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Admin WEB Reply:

You are done here. It appears that you are referring to me when you say "those who support the police and the government appear to be against the First Amendment right to freedom of expression".

(1) It's rude to refer to someone indirectly when they are right in front of you.

(2) Your intent compounds the problem: a deliberate attempt to tell lies about me while minimizing your accountability for telling those lies by hiding in a grey area of saying "those" which can be used to imply things and then disavow having implied them. Also, your comment is highly uncivil because you deliberately chose assuming the worst (which you knew that I would not support) and avoided asking me what I support because you WANTED to assume the worst about me. With such dishonesty on your part, our conversations cease to be debate or discussion and become half discussion/half cowardly sneaking in insults. Only offering that, you become a liability to this forum and are thus profitably banned.

Probably tired of me pointing out the ridiculousness of not just your communist beliefs, but the crudeness and low quality with which you represent those beliefs, you have decided to say something nasty about me. Unlike yourself (who offers a target rich environment whenever he opens his mouth), my comments were straight-forward, logical and not terribly controversial, thus depriving you the the opportunity to get revenge, thus you decided to try to fabricate your own opportunity with a lie.

You make a claim about police abuses that may or may not be true, assume it is true, (1) assume I know that it's true and (2) assume that I support police abuses. The problem is that I never said I accepted your allegations and I never supported police abuse, so it's a lie. Your defense for your lie is to hide in a grey area of saying hey I was only referring to "those", I didn't say you, which is obviously another lie since the article is not about "those" who support one thing or the other, I'm the only one on the thread supporting one position or another, so "those" must be me. The moderately rude "those who support..." was the vehicle through which your attempt to slander and get away with it traveled on, thus elevating it to a banable offense.

From your tactics in rudeness, I have discerned two new rules to be necessary, which I will be writing into the forum rules later:

* Do not use the phrase "you are" or "you're"

* Do not refer to people indirectly (i.e. "those who support policy X are against the First Amendment"). Comment directly on what someone has said directly instead (your support of policy X is against the First Amendment).

Not that this concerns you anymore. Unless you join a forum just for communists, I suspect you will become a whipping boy at your next destination. See ya.

[W.E.B. Du Bois]

This is a thread for the storage and display of subtler forum rules violations.

[jdayer]

BTW in the time it took me to formulate the above reply the forum logged me out and then deleted my post when I logged back in. That might be one of the reasons for the number of active posters.

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Admin WEB Reply:

Your comment is very disrespectful towards the forum. Forum rules state that it is against the rules to trash the forum. You are banned.