Subtler Forum Rule Violations Thread

[WhiteAfricanAmerican]

Before I launch into this, W.E.B could you explain why the cut off is 2005, and not 2001? It's not because you realised that the Democrats circa the 107th (when they controlled the Senate) and 108th Congress filibustered and/or stalled 10 judicial nominees?


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Admin WEB Reply:

Talking about other people (i.e. what they "realised") is against forum rules. On a more substantive note: you are asking me if I used a dishonest tactic, which is unacceptable to me. It would have been more appropriate to simply ask why the cut off is 2005 and not 2001 without the "realised" bit.

[discuss]

How can you equate the Tea Party with Progressives? If I understand your position, you are stating that because neither is moderate, they are equal. That is not sound logic.

The public option was desired by the majority of the country. And if you throw in all the people who would support it if they weren't misinformed by the right about how the public option would work, you'd have a hard time finding many who would be against it.

Taking a look at Obama on three major areas.
Healthcare: Compromising with a weak plan (Obamacare) that doesn't control costs and leaves the health insurance companies in charge of things.
Foreign relations: Escalating an unwinnable war in Afghanistan and supporting a dysfunctional government in Iraq.
Domestic economy: Not saving homeowners from foreclosures and not supporting job growth

Obama could have done more in each category if he hadn't been so concerned with compromise with Republicans and blue dog Democrats. There is very little in his policies that differs from the Bush administration. Why do people want to continue to make excuses for a President that has surrounded himself with people who have damaged the economy and profited from it, and supported unwinnable wars? Look who he just hired as his chief of staff. What has he done about regulating Wall Street? The constant effort to appease conservatives within and without his own party has led to watered-down efforts in nearly every area of policy.

If you support most of what Obama has done, it suggests you're either easily pleased or essentially conservative.

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Admin WEB Reply:

Thank you for the information, but I don't seem to recall asking to have my personality analyzed by you. By the way, since you say that I'm a conservative, could you tell me what my position is on abortion? single payer? the war in Afghanistan? social security? school vouchers? taxes? laissez-faire economics? evolution? secularism? Since you've got me pegged as a conservative, surely you know where I stand on the issues.

Or not.

You are banned.

[FLOMAN]

Convenient to exclude& forget the fact Huck said before the election That he believed for certain Obama was born in HawaiiIt is true that ,Obama spent alot of time as a boy in foreign lands

In Richard Nixon's campaign, managed by Fox News chief Roger Ailes, Ailes recommended that Nixon plant people in the audience who would talk about "negros" or "niggers" and then Nixon would reproach that kind of rhetoric while saying that the US must have law and order. I wonder if Huckabee is also playing a sort of a game like that by sometimes saying Obama was born in the US and sometimes saying he was born in Kenya. It would be a sinister, but perhaps effective way to win the GOP nomination.

Huck saying Obama born in the US: "I know the Clintons well, and believe me they had lots of investigators out on him, and I’m convinced if there was anything they could have found on that they would have found it, and I promise they would have used it.”

Source

Huck saying Obama born in Kenya: " I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, [is] very different than the average American.

He repeated the claim, saying:

...if you think about it, his perspective as growing up in Kenya with a Kenyan father and grandfather, their view of the Mau Mau Revolution in Kenya is very different than ours because he probably grew up hearing that the British were a bunch of imperialists who persecuted his grandfather. "

Huck's spokesman later said that the Obama-Kenya remark was an accident, but it was strange that in Huckabee's talk he also went on to talk about the Mau-Mau rebellion which occurred in Kenya.

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Admin WEB Reply:


A couple things are wrong with this comment.

• It's snide in a personal way.
• It violates forum rule 1 by talking about what I "forgot", which is talking about me and not what I said.
• It's sloppy and wrong. You claim that I don't mention that Huckabee said Obama was born in Hawaii. Actually, I did mention that. I didn't forget or exclude anything, you just didn't bother to read what I wrote.

I was going to give you a week off for your snide remarks on an another thread, but I'm going to make your vacation permanent. You are not a debater. You don't reply to rebuttals; you simply ignore them and fucking learn to spell.

Goodbye.


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[dave fagan]

Any person in the USA who hasn't figured out that any US "Media" info on Libya, Cuba, or Venezuela requires independent verification is a little slow on the uptake. Libya, according the UN has the highest HDI (Human Development Index) in Africa. Cuba has the world's smallest carbon footprint and best medical care, and Venezuela has a strong economy with the citizens sharing more of the Nation's patrimony (oil). All three of these countries are anti-corporatism, anti-imperialist, and distribute more of national wealth to social programs.

The National Front for the Salvation of Libya, an organization financed by the CIA is the likely organizer of protestors in Libya. With the ubiquitous nature of cellphones and their built in cameras, it seems to beg the question, "Where is the evidence of atrocities and the air strikes ordered by Colonel Gathafi against his "unarmed" civilians?" Attacks on armories to prevent the spread of weapons have been acknowledged by Qaddafi. Very logical.

The people who do not realize that they are being manipulated by the US Media are the problem. Corporatism wants to distribute the Libyan OIL through a controllable stooge like Karzai, al Maliki, or a Latin American puppet. Who pulls those strings?

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Admin WEB Reply:

I just posted a link to a Washington Post story, so it seems that "any person" is me. So you're calling me "a little slow on the uptake." I'm not slow on the uptake, I'm just not crazy like you are, nor am I a deranged psychopath like you, who says that he "might think it's OK to shoot protesters if they are organized by foreigners."

In any case, you've made it all too easy for me to do what I wanted to do, with this unprovoked personal attack.

You are banned.

I was actually worried that I would not be able to get rid of you and would be stuck with you indefinitely. Thank you for this gift. lol

[PUNKY3612]

I think if anything whites are becoming a minority so maybe who's the racist? as far as Somalians in Maine Why bite the hand that feeds you? as a resident of Maine its allot worse then whats been written, Somalians had been located to a small city which relied on wool mills logging mills along the androscoggin river well these mills are gone so lewiston is left with far more residents than jobs so it became instant crime wave mostly fighting and steeling. Now comes Somalian sisters, cousins, brothers, aunts and uncles then they all have children and now we are flooded and still supporting them with federal tax dollars and five years tax free.
( Put the white mans reservation east of the Indian reservation )

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Admin WEB Reply:

I asked you if you called me a racist. You dodged.

I pointed out the racism in your words and your source. You dodged.

Either way you don't deserve to post here. Either you make personal attacks based on lies, or you will not defend your racism. You are banned.

[Starring_Emma]

You don't get treated the way you want, especially if you are a baby-killer.

The justice system found her not guilty of being a baby killer. What part of that are you having a hard time understanding.

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Admin WEB Reply:

Telling lies about what I said is one thing, but telling lies about what I can or cannot understand is another.

You are banned.

What part of that are you having a hard time understanding?

[chaos]

well, if you hadn't read that article properly! then let me help you Greg Palast has written about the US plans which were being made even before 9/11. He also wrote that [In fact there were two conflicting plans, setting off a hidden policy war between neo-conservatives at the Pentagon, on one side, versus a combination of "Big Oil" executives and US State Department "pragmatists".

"Big Oil" appears to have won. The latest plan, obtained by Newsnight from the US State Department was, we learned, drafted with the help of American oil industry consultants. ] so the main objective of big oil was to privatize Iraq oil reserves. But that was just legalize their plan in reality they were going to give Iraq well's to American or Pro-American Jewish companies.

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Admin WEB Reply:

So I didn't "read the article properly" yet you still provide no proof that Iraqi oil fields are empty nor that think tanks are evil? You gotta go. You are banned.

[Sandy]

Well, you apparently have an attitude just like many Conservative forums. I have been on hundreds of forum sites and eventually been insulted for my Atheism. I will pass on this one.

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Admin WEB Reply:

You violated forum rules by talking about me and you are now banned. You can't quit because you're fired. No one mentioned your atheism, but it seems like you are being rude in anticipation of being insulted about it; a rather obnoxious way to behave. Good riddance.

[raymondo]

We were all fully aware of UK and French general and special forces troops readiness and deployment well before the No Fly Zone was mandated .
People talk to close families and friends the world over -- it is part of being "people"
The only unknown in the equation was whether we could get Abstentions from Russia and China .
Come on Mister Du Bois , do you really think the US could afford to be seen invading even one small Pacific coral island in 2011 given the stench from its performance over recent years and culminating in the unbelievable and horrific blunders of Iraq and Afghanistan ? The US has become the most hated force in modern History and is loathed throughout the Muslim world .It needed its allies to mask its true actions .
US official and documented Geo Political Strategy has been in the public domain , if you know where to look , for nearly a decade now . The required Crescent stretching from Afghanistan through to Northern Africa is a work in progress . Do you actually know what went on in Libya both in terms of expenditure and use of equipment ? Do you really think the UK , France and Italy could even afford the Gas ?
I admire Innocence , but when it turns to Denial , I cringe .

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Admin WEB Reply:

Looks like you didn't read the forum rules, like forum rule #1: don't talk about other members.

Since you've talked about me, I'll talk about you. Your modus operandi is to make things up. You make up wild conspiracies, and say that everything is headed for disaster. You state it as if it were fact and talk like you have facts to back up what you say, but everything you say is not based on facts or reason at all. It's nothing more than baseless things you believe and exist outside the realm of reason, facts and even the daily news.

With that, you are banned.

[Brayan]

Dear friend!
Your comments sound like an emotional statement. I am a quite fashion man, following all events and news.
The another problem is that maybe Ukraine these days resolved to have policy in another destination. (I mean pro-Russia course).
So what we will have got from this????
"Mercantalism"....
We live in modern society and time to bargain and to be useful. It's time of democracy, visits, summits, meetings even for buying smth.

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Admin WEB Reply:

Your comment is a violation of forum rule 8: Do not attempt to turn a member's beliefs or opinions into emotions.

Dismissing someone's comment as "emotional" does not address that comment, it is merely a roundabout personal attack, calling the other person "emotional". While you have called me emotional, notice how you didn't address a single thing I said.

I have no confidence that you will follow the forum rules. You are banned.