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W.E.B. Du Bois
12-07-2010, 07:20 AM
I flipped on CNN and the first thing I saw was a Democrat blasting Obama about he is weak, allowing the GOP to get massive concessions on tax cuts for the rich, in exchange for tax cuts for the middle class and a 13-month unemployment extension, and other tax cuts for the middle and working classes. I usually think of Democrats who do that as silly fools. However, I thought I would actually try and entertain the notion of if they could be right? Is Obama weak? (from a liberal point of view)


http://www.kansascity.com/2010/12/06/2502922/obama-and-republicans-agree-on.html


President Barack Obama announced a tentative deal with congressional Republicans on Monday to extend the Bush-era tax cuts at all income levels for two years.
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The package would cost about $900 billion over the next two years, to be financed entirely by adding to the national debt, at a time when both parties are professing a desire to begin addressing the nation’s long-term fiscal imbalances.

It would reduce the 6.2 percent Social Security payroll tax on all wage earners by 2 percentage points for one year, putting more money in the paychecks of workers. For a family earning $50,000 a year, it would amount to a savings of $1,000.

The deal also includes continuation of a college-tuition tax credit for some families, an expansion of the earned-income tax credit and a provision to allow businesses to write off the cost of certain equipment purchases. The top rate of 15 percent on capital gains and dividends would remain in place for two years, and the alternative minimum tax would be adjusted so that as many as 21 million households would not be affected by it.

In addition, the agreement provides for a 13-month extension of jobless aid for the long-term unemployed. Benefits have started to run out for some people, and as many as 7 million people would potentially lose assistance within the next year, officials said.

Congressional Republicans in recent days have blocked efforts by Democrats to extend the jobless aid and said they would insist on offsetting the $56 billion cost with spending cuts elsewhere. White House officials said they feared a long standoff that would see benefits end for millions of Americans over the holiday season and in the months ahead.

Obama made substantial concessions to Republicans. In addition to dropping his opposition to any extension of the current income tax rates on income above $250,000 for couples and $200,000 for individuals, he agreed to a deal on the federal estate tax that infuriated many members of his party. The deal would ultimately set an exemption of $5 million per person and a maximum rate of 35 percent — a higher exemption and far lower rate than many Democrats wanted.

“The House Democrats have not signed off on any deal,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, who has been representing House Democrats in formal negotiations on the tax issue, said Monday night. “We will thoroughly review and discuss the proposed package in the caucus.”

Some senior Democrats said an agreement by Obama to accede to Republican demands on the estate tax could lead to a revolt among lawmakers.

Wingnut
12-07-2010, 02:39 PM
Obama keeps saying he's willing and wanting to work with the GOP since he knows he's going to have to starting next month when the GOP takes over the House. Maybe this was just a way to show he means what he says.

Mike
12-08-2010, 12:40 AM
Compromise is a hallmark of President Obama's methodology. Compromise has always been an important component of politics in general. In these particularly partisan and rancorous times maybe President Obama's penchant says less about weakness and more about being one of the few reasonable people in Washington.

W.E.B. Du Bois
12-08-2010, 05:21 AM
As a staunch Obama supporter, I would nonetheless have to agree with this remark made by John Avlon (an independent):

"There is one point of growing agreement between the left and right: this president is a lousy poker player, with no love for the tough-minded gamesmanship of high-stakes negotiations. He believes in reasoning together, even with unreasonable people. This honorable approach leaves him liable to get rolled."


I think Obama is a better strategist than he is a fighter. He had a strategy in 2009. Pick off a few Republicans in the Senate and pass left of center policies. Also, do the dirty stuff that is required to get things passed in Congress (give your own party pork). Obama might have gotten the public option, but Obama wanted to do a lot of things, not just get the full extent of what he could get on a few things. You force the Blue Dogs to do the public option and they might not help you on Cap and Trade, Don't Ask/Don't Tell, etc. Obama thought his political coalition would last longer than it did (instead of being routed in the midterm elections). I think that this recent deal with the Republicans is better than nothing, however if he wants to really show some skills he'll make the estates tax legislation less radical and allow people who inherit between $1-$5 million to be taxed at some rate, not 0%. He may not be able to accomplish this, but if he did, I think things would look better for him. Hopefully, the estates tax thing will not be made a law but a temporary extension.

On a purely technical note, I wonder why the Democrats couldn't pass a budget and use reconciliation and thus avoid the filibuster. Maybe they lost their chance for this because they were passing health care in the Spring of 2010 and not dealing with the budget.

Mike
12-09-2010, 06:05 PM
To some he's weak, to other's he's pragmatic and able to see farther ahead. :)
But after a shaky period where his own leadership image became hazy, he has begun to regain focus as the pragmatic liberal that he is — not the hard-line socialist Republicans make him out to be but a president far more practical and down to earth than his critics on the liberal flank of the Democratic Party.

He has set the stage for follow-on proposals that can convert the cumbersome tax system into a growth-spurring mechanism — and force Republicans to explain and defend their preference for serving their wealthiest business backers.

That is a winning posture for a president seeking a second term.www.thenewstribune.com/2010/12/09/1457963/obama-takes-center-stage-this.html