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Mia Z
12-30-2011, 08:39 PM
Hello everyone I am new to the forum and would like to get people's views on what the best way would be to promote and create peace in the world.? I think that it is a really worthy cause to get involved in.... I came across The London Peace Declaration which brings together people from many different religions Iin the name of peace which I thought was a very positive step towards advocating peace. .
I look forward to hearing people's views (no negative views please I've already had my fair share of negative views!!!!! :D )
Peace to all....! :D
W.E.B. Du Bois
12-30-2011, 10:26 PM
Hi Mia,
Welcome to the forum. I don't think it's desirable to create peace in the world. Some regimes are evil and need to be destroyed (i.e. the Syrian, Iranian, Zimbabwean regimes). Peace in the face of evil is not a good thing.
WEB
Hi Mia, I believe [teaching ourselves to (a) adhere to the rule of law; and to (b) promote the growth of universal individual civil rights] are two of the most salient objectives that we can do to promote world peace.
margot
01-24-2012, 10:54 PM
Hi Mia,
Welcome to the forum. I don't think it's desirable to create peace in the world. Some regimes are evil and need to be destroyed (i.e. the Syrian, Iranian, Zimbabwean regimes). Peace in the face of evil is not a good thing.
WEB
I have been very disappointed with young Assad as I thought he would be a more benevolent man than his father because of his education in Medicine.. He is perceived as weak.. and the puppet of his younger brother who runs the military... and he is surrounded by old hardliners from his father's generation. I wish he would step down and go into exile.
Curiously, he was an avid supporter of Syrian Christians and paid the salary of Christian ministers in Syria.
W.E.B. Du Bois
01-24-2012, 11:00 PM
margot,
You said this statement: "Oh Ama-dinner-jacket is a mouthy ass but he hasn't denied the holocaust. He has posited the question.."
I asked you twice before if you believe that the Holocaust is something that should be doubted? Is the occurrence of the Holocaust debatable in your opinion?
margot
01-24-2012, 11:03 PM
Hi Mia, I believe [teaching ourselves to (a) adhere to the rule of law; and to (b) promote the growth of universal individual civil rights] are two of the most salient objectives that we can do to promote world peace.
Well Muslims generally don't have a concept of civic duties... Consider what democracy requires..... .. freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, equality under the law and civic participation.
Instead the time honored tradition is a bond between the ruler and the rulee... obligtions on both sides.. obedience on the part of the later in return for being a good Muslim and dispensing Justice , not freedom, on the part of the former.
Only the most enlightened Muslims are ready for democracy... Learning by rote is not conducive to intellectual inquiry... Saudi Arabia for one is trying to remedy that by reinventing their educational process towards analysis.
There is a huge risk that if Assad is deposed, the clerics will take over.. and matters will be worse.
The best hope for the 'Arab Spring' is a reform movement in Islam........... no small undertaking.
W.E.B. Du Bois
01-25-2012, 12:48 AM
I have been very disappointed with young Assad as I thought he would be a more benevolent man than his father because of his education in Medicine.. He is perceived as weak.. and the puppet of his younger brother who runs the military... and he is surrounded by old hardliners from his father's generation. I wish he would step down and go into exile.
Curiously, he was an avid supporter of Syrian Christians and paid the salary of Christian ministers in Syria.
I think that Assad is more interested in playing ethnic politics. He is trying to turn this into a minority vs majority ethnic warfare situation, as opposed to what it actually is: an oppressed people vs a dictator situation. The minority ethnicity should not fall for such a ploy and the majority ethnicity should reassure them that their voices will be heard and their interests represented in a democratic government.
margot
01-25-2012, 01:07 PM
I think that Assad is more interested in playing ethnic politics. He is trying to turn this into a minority vs majority ethnic warfare situation, as opposed to what it actually is: an oppressed people vs a dictator situation. The minority ethnicity should not fall for such a ploy and the majority ethnicity should reassure them that their voices will be heard and their interests represented in a democratic government.
The Alawites of Syria and the Christian Syrians are the minority.. the Alawites are in a position of priviledge.. and the Christians have been protected.
W.E.B. Du Bois
01-25-2012, 01:21 PM
The Alawites of Syria and the Christian Syrians are the minority.. the Alawites are in a position of priviledge..
Which follows the outline of what I wrote.
and the Christians have been protected.
Irrelevant and off the point of what I wrote. The point of what I wrote is that the Alawites and/or Shi'ite are the ones who need the reassurances of protection for them to relinquish power.
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